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Re: Blue Marbles

Post  Pterophyllum on Sun 20 May 2012, 21:39

Hi Helen,
This was Dad a few months ago, IMO he looks even better today, but he's not being very co-operative about having his photo taken at the moment!

He's M/+ - +/pb.

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Post  endlessendlers on Mon 21 May 2012, 05:44

It's surprising how much blue he expresses for single dose. I love the markings in his tail fin. I'm assuming his offspring won't inherit the orange he has? confused
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Post  Pterophyllum on Mon 21 May 2012, 08:29

It's surprising how much blue he expresses for single dose.
The blue is actually silver, I think he must be reflecting something blue.

I'm assuming his offspring won't inherit the orange he has?
Certainly pb seems to supress orange/red colouration, but that's something I want to work with. I've kept about half a dozen of his siblings and most have similar orange crowns, several have orange crowns that are far more intense than his, I'll try to get a couple of photos. I'm very hopeful that I can keep that going in a marble line, I'm hoping that I might be able to keep it in the blue marbles too.

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Post  Pterophyllum on Mon 16 Jul 2012, 23:36

I'll try to get a couple of photos.
Sorry, failed on that one. I'll try to remember in the next few days.

In the first post in this thread I showed some youngsters from a different pair that had gone free swimming that day.
The father of those is a chocolate pearlscale with a hidden gold gene, they're coming up to 3 months old and coming along nicely. As both parents were heterozygous for pb only 1 in 8 of the youngsters is a blue marble, half of them are M/+ whilst the others are M/g, since dad is a chocolate, all are blue marble smokeys....

This is one of the M/+ - Sm/+ - pb/pb individuals taken today....



whilst this is a photo of one of the M/g - Sm/+ - pb/pb fish taken a couple of weeks ago....


Whilst this photo was taken today, it's definitely M/g, but I don't think it's a blue, it's most likely heterozygous for pb.


What's interesting is that the M/g combination appears to mask the smokey pattern completely, something I hadn't appreciated until this batch.

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Post  endlessendlers on Tue 17 Jul 2012, 00:13

Pterophyllum wrote:
I'll try to get a couple of photos.
Sorry, failed on that one. I'll try to remember in the next few days.

In the first post in this thread I showed some youngsters from a different pair that had gone free swimming that day.
The father of those is a chocolate pearlscale with a hidden gold gene, they're coming up to 3 months old and coming along nicely. As both parents were heterozygous for pb only 1 in 8 of the youngsters is a blue marble, half of them are M/+ whilst the others are M/g, since dad is a chocolate, all are blue marble smokeys....

This is one of the M/+ - Sm/+ - pb/pb individuals taken today....



whilst this is a photo of one of the M/g - Sm/+ - pb/pb fish taken a couple of weeks ago....


Whilst this photo was taken today, it's definitely M/g, but I don't think it's a blue, it's most likely heterozygous for pb.


What's interesting is that the M/g combination appears to mask the smokey pattern completely, something I hadn't appreciated until this batch.

I love the marble pattern on the first fish.

I note you say the M/g seems to mask the smokey pattern, but I can't see smokey in the M/+ either.
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Re: Blue Marbles

Post  Pterophyllum on Tue 17 Jul 2012, 00:22

I can't see smokey in the M/+ either.
It's faint, but it's there. One clue is the black tip to the dorsal fin, but the light grey colouration directly above the anal fin is the smokey component, here's a photo of one taken a couple of weeks back where the smokey pattern is clearer

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Re: Blue Marbles

Post  uk bulldog on Tue 17 Jul 2012, 06:55

All your marbles look great Rob & you can just see the smokey in that fish but very faint if you look hard enough
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