Gallery


Latest topics
» Which option would you choose?
Mon 20 Nov 2017, 22:02 by Pterophyllum

» Need help theirs something wrong angelfish are acting really strange
Wed 13 Sep 2017, 10:37 by Pterophyllum

» Hi all. =)
Sun 03 Sep 2017, 15:52 by Pterophyllum

» Disaster has struck!!!
Thu 24 Aug 2017, 11:32 by Pterophyllum

» Is there anybody out there?
Wed 16 Aug 2017, 18:55 by Pterophyllum

» Hello everyone - just joined the forum.
Wed 16 Aug 2017, 18:53 by Pterophyllum

» Scottish Members.
Wed 16 Aug 2017, 14:36 by wildreddeer

» Keeping angelfish fry in the parents tank
Tue 15 Aug 2017, 09:30 by Pterophyllum

» Just Testing
Wed 02 Aug 2017, 21:19 by bridgegirl99

post deleted

Mon 24 Jul 2017, 16:09 by fredothedictator

post deleted

Comments: 2

Sunset Koi Angelfish

Sun 16 Oct 2016, 19:30 by MatthewHalliday

Shalom Everyone I want to buy some Sunset Koi Angelfish I bought one …

Comments: 3

WANTED Bugarian Greens/Albino Dantum

Sun 19 Jun 2016, 02:04 by Toondog

As the title suggest I'm trying to track down some Bulgarian Seal …

Comments: 0

Counter
free counters

Blue Albinos

Page 2 of 2 Previous  1, 2

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  Pterophyllum on Fri 17 Aug 2012, 09:33

Hi Rob, can you please post the photo of the glitter albinos you brought in from Czec?
I thought I'd already posted them here, but can't find them anywhere, so here are a couple of shots.....



_________________
Blessed are the cheesemakers!
avatar
Pterophyllum

Posts : 1554
Join date : 2012-02-08
Location : Gloucestershire

Back to top Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  jimmyjahooha on Sun 19 Aug 2012, 19:04

Thanks Rob, out of interest what age are the fish when photographed? does the irridescence increase with age?
avatar
jimmyjahooha

Posts : 80
Join date : 2012-02-18

http://jimmyzangels.webs.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  Pterophyllum on Sun 19 Aug 2012, 21:42

I have no idea of the actual age of the fish, but to look at them I'd guess that they were between 9 and 12 months old when photographed. I haven't seen any marked increase in iridescence since they arrived.

_________________
Blessed are the cheesemakers!
avatar
Pterophyllum

Posts : 1554
Join date : 2012-02-08
Location : Gloucestershire

Back to top Go down

Some pics

Post  jimmyjahooha on Sat 08 Sep 2012, 21:12












Dorsal is showing rainbow effect when you shine a torch on them and irridescence of the gill plate. If you look closely enough on pic 5 you will see dots of colour - how would you describe this?
avatar
jimmyjahooha

Posts : 80
Join date : 2012-02-18

http://jimmyzangels.webs.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  Pterophyllum on Sat 08 Sep 2012, 23:27

Hi Jimmy,
They're coming on nicely, although from the photos I can't see any which scream "blue" at me.

Dorsal is showing rainbow effect when you shine a torch on them
There's been a lot of discussion of this trait on TAF II, nothing conclusive as to cause, but it seems to me that it results from an interaction between a number of genes, gold, stripeless, zebra, Philippine Blue and albino. My impression is that not all of these genes are required to produce the effect, but a combination of several of them will often produce it.

...and irridescence of the gill plate. If you look closely enough on pic 5 you will see dots of colour - how would you describe this?
Afraid I can't quite see what you mean in your photo, but if it's something similar to the effect on the gills of the fish in the first photo of my previous post, that's usually referred to as blue or green glitter, or when it merges together to form a network pattern that's called "snakeskin". It's something that's fairly common in angels, but it seems to be enhanced by the pb gene.

My one surviving albino is coming on nicely now, I'm pretty convinced he's an albino gold, and because of the genetics of his parents I know he's got a smokey gene, a zebra, a stripeless gene and a pb gene. To my eyes, he looks very similar to yours....

_________________
Blessed are the cheesemakers!
avatar
Pterophyllum

Posts : 1554
Join date : 2012-02-08
Location : Gloucestershire

Back to top Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  jimmyjahooha on Sun 09 Sep 2012, 00:29

Hi Rob,

thanks for the feedback, the photos i've posted really don't do them justice, there definately is more blue in them, i'll keep trying to get that one gem of a photo Laughing
avatar
jimmyjahooha

Posts : 80
Join date : 2012-02-18

http://jimmyzangels.webs.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  Pterophyllum on Sun 09 Sep 2012, 00:44

the photos i've posted really don't do them justice, there definately is more blue in them
Getting the blue to show when photographing any blue variety is a challenge, I would imagine that it's doubly difficult with albinos, so keep trying!

_________________
Blessed are the cheesemakers!
avatar
Pterophyllum

Posts : 1554
Join date : 2012-02-08
Location : Gloucestershire

Back to top Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  jimmyjahooha on Sun 09 Sep 2012, 22:03

Ok, next attempt, I changed the lighting and polished water, these seem to be a bit clearer, I also took video - make sure you watch in 720p, let me know your thoughts. Fish tend to have yellow tinge, this is due to lighting.







This pic the fish has the small blothches I was referring to, have you seen this before? if you click on the pic you will see the fishes face!



avatar
jimmyjahooha

Posts : 80
Join date : 2012-02-18

http://jimmyzangels.webs.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  Pterophyllum on Sun 09 Sep 2012, 23:27

Hi Jimmy,
Great fish & a great photo/video, but I still remain to be convinced that they're homozygous for pb. That said I've not seen an albino that is homozygous for pb in the flesh, so I'm not saying they definitely aren't either!

As to the blue on the body that is the blue glitter/snakeskin trait that I mentioned in my previous post. It's really hard to capture in a photo/video so you did a great job.
These, obviously, aren't albinos, but you can see something similar in these fish





Look at the chest area on this one


These next two photos show how variable the effect is depending on the lighting, the fish in the background of the final photo is the same fish as the one in the photo below



HTH

Rob

_________________
Blessed are the cheesemakers!
avatar
Pterophyllum

Posts : 1554
Join date : 2012-02-08
Location : Gloucestershire

Back to top Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  Pterophyllum on Mon 10 Sep 2012, 08:33

You might find the following of interest

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg227/mwgibbs/Albinos/albinos%20dos/

I know a lot of his stock is homozygous for pb, but with the exception of the paraibas, I wouldn't be very confident to say so just from looking at them. I suspect doing test crosses may be the only way to be 100% sure.

_________________
Blessed are the cheesemakers!
avatar
Pterophyllum

Posts : 1554
Join date : 2012-02-08
Location : Gloucestershire

Back to top Go down

Albino,s

Post  TONY,S ANGELS on Mon 10 Sep 2012, 13:02

Hi Jimmy
You have some top quality young Albinos there and they will be stunning fish when they get to be mature
adults and hopfully the blue is more photo frendly then, blue is very hard to capture on camera.
Cheers Tony
avatar
TONY,S ANGELS

Posts : 157
Join date : 2012-02-26
Location : Kinmel bay North Wales

Back to top Go down

Re: Blue Albinos

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 2 of 2 Previous  1, 2

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum